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Assessing the value of the quality you receive in #callcenter work is hard

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Assessing the value of the quality you receive in #callcenter work is hard

Imagine that you are hiring call centers to do work for you. How do you assess the workers? How do you assess the company as a whole? Each person has unique skills and will be put through different situations. One person might be more efficient at their work (more calls / hour) while another person might be better at calming down complicated situations! Some people are just pleasant to talk to — efficient or not, and might gain your company popularity. A few workers might
give wrong answers to questions, or just make things up — imagine what that can do to your reputation. Everyone is different and it is not always to easy to figure out who is ideal for your needs.

There are factors that I am thinking of that you might not be thinking of. How fast will the worker quit? If you train someone to do your work, and you invested a lot of time in them, it is expensive if they quit. Imagine investing $1000 of your time in someone just to have them quit three weeks later. How can you predict who will quit and who won’t?

When you tally up the scores of all of the people you are comparing, give points for efficiency, and points for how they make people feel. Subtract points for unreliable behaviors. If you are picky, one small goof and you are fired. Most employers have a longer string than that, but you have to figure out how much incompetency you can handle, because there is a lot of it out there!

When assessing the value of the company as a whole, after going through five or more workers, you will get a sense of the quality standards of the company. In my opinion, you are as good as your worst employee. But, on the other hand if you have a few great ones to make up for the bad ones, it somewhat compensates!

Tweets
(1) If you have a few star employees to make up for the duds, it somewhat compensates!
(2) Imagine that you are hiring call centers to do work for you. How do you assess the workers?
(3) One #callcenter employee might be more efficient while another might be more pleasant to talk with!
(4) Imagine investing $1000 of your time training someone who quits 3 weeks later?
(5) When you tally up the score, give points for efficiency, pleasantness & deduct for mistakes!
(6) When assessing the value of a company as a whole, try out 5 or more workers; get an average score!

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Americans who LIKE Indians complain about call centers

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Americans who LIKE Indians are also complaining about call centers

It is common at Noida Call Centers for managers to encourage their workers to become less Indian — to erase their Indianness and become a fake American or Britisher. The point is that Americans and English live in very cosmopolitan societies where people of all backgrounds are accepted to a greater or lesser degree. Sure, it is good to blend in, but the bigger issue is how you interact.

My Tamil-American Friend

I have a friend who as born in Tamil Nadu.  He loves India and visits regularly, but he has lived in the United States since early childhood.  He thinks that Indian culture is the best in the world and married an Indian lady born in the West as well. Every day I talk to him he tells me something new about how great Indians are, and how great Hinduism is.  But, when an Indian call center calls him, he gets annoyed right away.  So, even Indians in America get upset at Indian call center workers. He takes offense that they always have a fake American sounding name, and that they pretend to be in America.  The words that come out of his mouth are, “Let’s be honest, what’s your real name Rocky? Is it Rakesh?, and where are you really located, you are not in Memphis — that is for sure”.  Misrepresenting your location, having a fake name, and trying to push a product you don’t understand well is not flattering to my friend.  Once again, honesty and good interaction skills are what sells.

My American Friend who Loves Indians

I have an American friend from a meditation group that I used to belong to.  He loves Indians.  Half of the people he knows are from India.  He loves Indian food, culture, languages, and everything else you can think of that is Indian.  He too gets annoyed that these call centers bother him and the workers have fake names and refuse to disclose their real locations. So, is the problem that people don’t like Indians?  Americans like Indians, they just don’t usually like Indian call center workers for a long list of reasons.

American Stereotypes about Indians

Americans think that Iranians are terrorists, they are terrified of Pakistanis, and think that Arabs want to kill us all.  These are all cultures that Americans can not tell apart from Indians.  Dark skinned people, who wear strange clothing, have bizarre beliefs, and worship a scary god that is different from our god.  You can explain to Americans that Allah is the same god that Jesus prayed to, but this fact will simply not register.  But, the American stereotype of Indians is that they are GENTLE and INTELLIGENT — non-threatening.  This group of exotic brown-skinned people is NOT out to get us — we can trust them — and they are amazing with computers too!  But, this positive stereotype of Hindustanis — the new model-minority in America changes when we meet pushy call center workers who talk without listening, have fake names, fake locations, and fail to understand any of the prospective buyer’s concerns.

An example of an Indian who got ahead.

I know an Indian who got ahead — far ahead.  He did multi-million dollar deals for decades and was one of the most sophisticated people in his industry.  According to the philosophy of the North Indian Call Centers, he would have to be fair skinned, and have one of those “NEUTRAL” sounding accents, and throw his Indianness in the garbage to get ahead.  The truth is that the Indians who try to de-Indianize themselves are making about 100 rupees per hour.  This particular Indian who got ahead makes several crores (millions) on a bad year.  He is very Indian, and at the same time very worldly — speaking five different languages flawlessly.  He has a very typical South Indian accent, and he looks like a typical South Indian.  He uses his real name, he never plays games about where he is located — which is never a constant.  Breakfast in Singapore, lunch in Qatar, and dinner at Nariman point would be a typical day for him in his business.  If this gentleman was the only person who you knew who was getting ahead, you might think that call center workers need to be MORE Indian and use their real name!

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How to find call center clients — 3 basic points

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How to find call center clients / call centre clients

Our staff talks to call centers in India, call centers in the Philippines, and many other places. The #1 question they ask is how to acquire more call center clients or accounts. The answer is actually simple, yet nobody wants to hear it. Call center managers are looking for fancy sounding schemes to attract clients to their call center. People are looking for a magic pill that they can take that will get them more call centre clients. But, there is no magic pill, and customers don’t grow on trees. YES, there are customers out there by the thousands, but YOU might not be getting them. Why? Because you didn’t take the magic pill which I am going to give you. Take this pill once a week, and clients will miraculously grow on a tree just for you! I promise! Trust me!

People are very resistant to hearing common sense advice. But, the secret to “how to acquire more call center clients” is only common sense. So listen! Points 1, 2 and 3 are very basic. 98% of Indian companies FAIL to do all three points correctly which is why they rarely make much money. They present a bad image of themselves.

(1) If you don’t answer your phone, your prospective clients won’t be able to do business with you even if they want to. Most call centers don’t answer their own business’ business line because they are too busy making calls for their clients. Answer your phone! No excuses. Sure, that is too SIMPLE to possibly be good business advice. But, it is common sense truth. Companies that don’t answer their phone are generally small, and stay small, or crumble alltogether.

(2) Have someone answer the phone professionally. A dull “hullo” doesn’t cut it in the business world. Have them announce their personal name and company name.

(3) Have someone KNOWLEDGEABLE and helpful answer the phone. I talk to people all night who can’t answer the phone properly. then, during the day when I call America, I get people who don’t know a single fact about the service they are selling. Goodness gracious. How can you sell a service, if you don’t know anything about it? I would never become your client if you are so useless!

Here are some additional points on having a knowledgable and helpful salesperson

(a) Your salesperson should be personable and get along well with most people.

(b) The information they give should be accurate and realistic. Nobody likes a liar, or someone who gives incorrect information by mistake. You lose call center clients by giving wrong answers.

(c) Being too pushy scares people away. Be nice! Trying to twist people’s arms into signing a contract is a bad idea at first too. Let people get to know your company before forcing them to be bound to a restrictive contract.

(d) Be flexible! Don’t have rigid terms.

(e) Understand how to introduce the company, how many workers you have, and who does what. Tell people about the history of the company as well, and don’t keep secrets. Many companies will refuse to say anything about their workers because it is private. Prospective clients will not want to use your company if you have too many secrets — tell them about everyone who works there.

(f) Avoid trying to present a false big company image. If you are a big company, then stress how PERSONAL you are. If you are a small company, stress how COZY you are. Small companies have many advantages that big companies don’t have. Stress being GOOD rather than being a particular size.

Thats it for now, but there will be more similar blog posts on how to get more call center clients!

Call Center Mumbai in the news!

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Call Center Mumbai in the news
 
Call Centers in Mumbai vs. Rat Catchers
The Chicago Sun Times stated in November 2010 that a rat killer in Mumbai makes $271 while a Mumbai Call Center employee makes $338 as an entry level employee and claims that the competition for rat killing jobs is tough.  Indian call center jobs are now being outsourced to the Philippines, but there is no way to outsource rat catching jobs.  So, unless there is an influx of foreign born cats coming to Mumbai, the rat catchers are safe… for now.
 
“Outsourced” and real Mumbai Call Centers
The TV show Outsourced is really funny.  I watch each episode at least four times on hulu.com and love each and ever character.  Each persona is loveable, interesting, and hillarious.  But a real life Mumbai Call Center would be dull and boring in comparison.  I remember visiting a Vashi call center in Navi Mumbai (over the bridge from the Bombay peninsula). There would be the bored looking security guard in a dull uniform, the gray concrete buildings, the endless honking, unhappy people in a hurry to come to work.  I wish that real call center employees could be as delightful as on Outsourced!  The one call center employee I remember from real life was a girl in the Philippines who was entralled by the fact that I “Flew over her” on my way to India.  She asked me to wave hi next time I fly over the Philippines. I promised that I would!  I think this sort of charm should be integrated into the job.  Adding humor and personality makes a wonderful bridge between far away people.
 
Spiegel online’s article about India by day America by night discusses issues inside a Mumbai Call Center.  Call Center employees are encouraged to develop American accents and personalities. These employees live as Indians by day, and Americans by night.  The article claims that eligible English speaking call center call center employees are in shorter and shorter supply and that Mumbai call centers and Delhi Call Centers are trying to attract Europeans who are recent college grads to work overseas with them for a year. 
 
In the film “John & Jane”, a lady named Naomi is in her final state of Westernization.  She had bleached hair and bleached skin and spoke with an accent that somewhat resembled a Texan accent.  My point is that if you don’t live in a particular culture, then you are not part of it.  I can fake an accent from any part of the world, but I am only part of the cultures that I spend time in, and I spend more time in some and less time in others.  
 
What disturbed me is on domestic flights in India, I am always bumping into these falsely Westernized girls.  There is the fake sounding British accent, and the unwillingness to acknowledge Indian tradition.  Real Westerners who go to India know Indian tradition. We don’t always relate to it or like it, but we don’t pretend not to know what Chai is, and we don’t bleach our skin if we have a dark complexion — except for certain pop singer(s) who recently passed away who do the moon walk. We don’t pretend that no Indians have arranged marriages anymore.  There is a subculture of Indians with foreign samskaras who feel they are “too good to be Indian.” They love the airline, film, and bar industry. Their attitude is completely un-Indian, but equally un-Western and is often stuck-up.  They are in a neither here neither there sort of a cultural niche — the antithesis of being bi-cultural.  If they really want to be American, they should live with us, and become Westernerized in a real way, and stop pretending.

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4 Ways That Make Appointment Setting Work for Businesses

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Whatever maybe the business size or whichever niche you belong to, correctly negotiating a business deal is important. You have to make the deal in such a way that you gain win-win results at the end for both you and the sales lead prospects.

The problem, which the marketer faces in this present situation, is the competition. Well, if you sprang in the market with a similar kind of mindset, where the opposite has to yield what you want then you will hardly succeed in the appointment setting campaign. Now that is a losing proposition for your company, as you might lose all the possible prospects.

Another productive way to gain B2B leads is to engage prospects and partners in the business. This helps to create a conducive atmosphere for both the business and their customers. This makes it easier to talk to the possible prospects and sign up for a deal.

In such a situation, you might prefer to leverage the appointment setting campaigns to some outbound call centers. Yes, they can actually guide you through the right track, which you have missed at some point of your business.

Here are 4 ways by which business can gain repute through quality outbound appointment setting.

1. Research or Survey

Research and survey are the two most important roles that a person has to play while initiating an appointment setting campaign. When you have to talk with your customer, query about their problems and things which they want to achieve through your product. If you are able to sit on the same side as your prospect then you will be successful in generating quality leads. That is what an agent at the outbound call center does for your business. They present themselves as an expert to tackle the customer problem and thus convince customers.

2. Depersonalizing Your Problems

Yes, an outbound agent takes care of their conversational speeches. They remove the positioning statements like – ‘my solution is’. Since, it shows that the identity of your company is affixed and it will never change. Instead they use comments like – ‘if we do it like this, so that’… or ‘is this solution fine with you?…’ it becomes easier to adapt to the needs of the customers.

3. Solutions to Queries

Outbound agents on behalf of the company figures out the ‘why’ behind every ‘what’ that customer asks. Since, in every statement of the customer there is logic as they are going to buy a product from the company, so queries form an essential part. During the telemarketing call, agents dig deeper in the customers reasoning. Once you know their queries it will become easier to negotiate.

4. Have a Plan B

If you outsource your appointment setting campaigns at outbound call centers, then you do not have to worry about the plan B. Telemarketers never stick to one single business arrangement. To acquire leads and turn them into sales, they keep the proposal ready from beforehand.

Negotiations through outbound call centers are not a tough job. Moreover, it lets you improve the core services. This gives you a competent edge. You will come across numerous outsourcing providers. Do a little research and choose the reputable ones in the market.

Author’s Bio

Marie Claret is a contact center marketing manager, takes care of the outbound wing and their processes. According to her, outbound appointment setting is really bringing wide changes to B2B business approaches and quality call center solutions are largely accredited for it. Visit Fusion BPO Services

Cebu Call Centers in the News

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Call Center Cebu News issues
 
Expanded Broadband for the Philippines
As PLDT completes its expansion of the domestic fiber optic network, Cebu’s potential as an outsourcing destination gets better and better.  Broadband costs could get lower too.  An increase in call center investments is expected to create many new jobs in the Philippines that will likely mean that the 60 BPO companies in Cebu could expand and that new Cebu call centers could arise.  The new network goes through eleven islands and underwater and is expected to ensure uninterrupted broadband coverage for the entire nation.
 
Asiatown IT Park
In addition to Cebu call centers, there is an Asiatown IT Park in Cebu which is the Philippines second largest concentration of IT industries employing an excess of 15,000 individuals.  
 
BPOs including Indian companies are outsourcing to Cebu!
Wipro, a Bangalore based company, set up a call center in Cebu in 2007.  eBusiness BPO is ready to hire 350 employees for its new headquarters in Cebu in December 2010.  Additionally, the Radisson Blu has opened a 400 room hotel in Cebu.  
 
Hoax bomb threat near Cebu Call Centers
There was a false bomb threat that lead to the vacating of a Cebu city Asiatown IT Park building.  An unidentified caller was the individual who made the threat.  Two K9 teams were unable to find any explosives.
 
To summarize, Cebu, in the Visayas region, is a major economic hub in the Philippines which caters to the call center and BPO industry. As time goes on, you can expect large businesses to be setting up branches in Cebu, especially if they need to have a high quality call center.

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How to find call center clients — being pushy

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Finding call center clients could be easy or hard, but having good technique is what you should be worried about at this point. You can contact larger companies and see if they need extra call center resources. Or, you can market yourself on the web and in directories and wait for the calls to come in. The main point is to attract the people you come into contact with. Many companies have not mastered this point.

Many call centers lack basic phone skills when you call them. They often don’t even answer their own phone, and many don’t even answer professionally. Often times, you can not get someone trained in sales to help you without really pulling teeth. So, master your phone skills before going on to the next step.

Don’t be pushy
Many businesses that do outsourcing of any type can be pushy about contracts and terms. If you are a smaller company trying to make it in the big world, you will feel tempted to copy what bigger companies do. This is a mistake. Don’t copy big companies. Big companies might have rigid contracts, formal looking offices, formal suits, receptionists, etc. You don’t need any of this. Contracts are restrictive and scare people away. Sure, you need to protect yourself from not getting paid. However, trying lock in a complete stranger to a contract will scare them away. Your phone is NOT ringing off the hook. So, if your phone does ring with a prospective client, your strategy should be to NOT scare them away no matter what. Lure them in by being nice, helpful and flexible.

The 70% rule
When I go shopping for companies, I have to turn down 70% of them because they have rigid terms and because they try to push me into a contract. Do you want to lose 70% of prospective clients? Most companies behave as if they don’t care if they get new clients — those companies get far fewer than they could if they changed their attitude. Does your company have this “Don’t care” attitude?

The long run
If you care about the long run of your business, you will quickly realize that catching a new client can turn into a snowball effect. That new client will stay with you for years if they like you. They can also give you more business volume if they like you. Additionally, they can tell their rich friends how great you are — if they like you. However, if you alienate your prospects at the point of sale — they will not try you out — and they will never know if they like you — because you were too pushy. So, DON’T BE PUSHY. Learn your lesson now.

Alternatives to having a fake call center name

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Alternatives to creating a fake call center name

It seems to be a formal rule that is recorded in the constitution of India, that all call centre workers will have fake names — or be immediately throw in jail for not shunning the culture that they are from.  But, why not have a policy of having TWO NAMES…

I personally have a name that I translate into many languages.  I have an English name, a French name (spelled the same as the English name, but pronounced differently), a Spanish name, an Arabic name, a Hebrew name, and lastly a very classy Chinese name which sounds surprisingly similar to one of their literary scholars (which was a complete accident).    If I go to China and people ask my name, I say, “Wo de zhong-wen ming-zi shi ma jue min”.   That means, my Chinese name is Ma Jue Min.  I make it clear that this is not my legal name, but this is the Chinese version of my name — Horse Awaken the People.  Incidentally, the name was meant to be the closest phonetic match of my English name, but has a very poetic meaning in Chinese, and is almost identical to Li Jue Min who was a literary scholar in China — a happy coincidence.

In any case, living in America, we meet people from all around the world.  Before 911, I met a guy from Lebanon.  If I met him today, he might hide his real name for obvious reasons.  He introduced himself this way — “Hi, my name is Ousama, but my friends call me Oos — Just call me Oos”.

So, picture a South Indian call center worker being honest about his name and location. “Hi, my name is Rama-Chandra Sri-Kumar Venkatchalam — but, you can just call me Mike… everybody else does”

There is a legitimate reason to adapt an alias name if your name is too hard for Americans to say. Please remember that many Americans live in places like New York where we hear 30 languages every single day, every day of our lives. We are used to hearing names of all types ranging from African, Indian, French, German, Chinese, Korean, etc. For cosmopolitan Americans, being able to pronounce a name like Rajesh would be a piece of cake.  But, for whitebred folks in Oklahoma or North Dakota who don’t have much diversity at all, it might be an issue to grasp ANY Indian name at all.  To me it seems logical to keep your real name unless it is just impossible for more than 5% of Americans to remember or pronounce.

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Human beings or human capital?

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plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.
French Proverb

Twenty years ago when I had my first formal job at a call center, the industry was still young. Everyone knew the idea was to get people to buy or contribute as much as po$$ible over the phone, but no one really twisted any arms. Callers used their natural charms and genuine attitudes about life to convince people to do something, and it had to be something they wanted to call about. Of course, this was before the general erosion of trust had destroyed 80% of Americans’ feelings about people and their motives, before telemarketing became a common daily occurrence, before 9/11, before the mortgage crisis, before the poisonous BP oil disaster, before gas prices rose to $4 a gallon in the U.S., before the rich versus poor gap widened so much that it resembled the fault at the border of the Pacific Plate, before the tsunami of 2004 that released energy the magnitude of 23,000 Hiroshima-style atomic bombs, before Hurricane Katrina and the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, several presidents ago…before the continuing stockmarket crashes that parallel these natural and unnatural disasters.

There is no longer much trust in each other, and young people of all nations do not have a secure future to look forward to. They have seen their parents struggle, and some have seen their parents fail. Many people are willing to learn to say anything at all on the phone to earn a living.

Thus, in 2012, the dilemma: how to run a call center? And how to run a call center so you get lots of work and can still face yourself in the mirror?

The latest ideas have revolved around what software to use to “manage” the calls and the call center and thus keep callers on their toes; how to keep training callers due to the constant turnover–formerly known to create business failure but now considered par for the course; and now, finally, where to outsource calls to–India or the Philippines–since U.S. workers demand to be paid “too much.” Note that all of this is about volume and turnover and bottom line, as if people really were dollar bills being spewed out on an assembly line and there will always be an endless supply of them…and thus, they are expendable…anything but human. This is the way companies and workers in the U.S. have been living. In fact, it has been shown to be the case that training good English-speaking callers and keeping them will, in the long run, make your call center more profitable to high-end companies. By the way, it is also better for all the people involved.

It seems that our current ideas of how to run a call center demonstrate all of the problems and cycles of thinking and management theory we have flipped through in the past twenty or thirty years, including the idea of “human capital.” I’m talking about human management; remember, what management originally meant was the way to get people to do their best. But now management has become an ugly word, and in practice often means the best way to manipulate people, lie to them, herd them in one direction and then another, and then, finally, when they least expect it, let them go.

Education and health are now termed “investments” in human capital; in other words, it is good for people to be healthy and smart. Why can’t we simply say that? In a time when the value of real investments is questionable, does the comparison of human benefits to capital–or people to money–inspire us? Is it sincere? After what we have seen of our investments, such a comparison seems blind and heartless. For if our human capital is to be managed by the same reckless forces that managed our major companies, stocks, banks, and governments– why would we want to use the term human capital? It has an eerie, Orwellian feel to it; ask any of the shareholders who collectively lost $11 billion when Enron collapsed, taking their retirement pensions, hopes, and dreams with it.

Here is my memory of working part-time in a prominent U.S. call center in 1993, right after I moved and was suddenly teaching not full-time but only part-time at a college.

The call center manager was a guy about 45, which in those days meant that he had some education and, given that he had lived through the 1960’s, had people-centered and earth-friendly values. He wasn’t rich, but he had a simple house and was generally happy in his life. He also made everyone at work happy: he complimented us when we did well, explained why something we said was or wasn’t effective, and sincerely believed in the companies we called on behalf of. Technology? We had the latest equipment, and it was adequate for what we did, and no new expensive software will help the bottom line if your people are not with you in spirit. Trainings? We had lots of them, but the core of the thing was that we all worked together well as a team, and we all tried our hardest without lying or creating false names….because nothing we were saying on the phone was a lie. It wasn’t tacky or scummy; we weren’t trying to fool anyone into doing anything. Of course, we also weren’t doing customer support or explaining technical manuals on the phone…but if we had been asked to, we would have managed to do it with a smile. All the callers were well-educated, and worked at the call center part-time or full-time because it supplemented their income, and all of them did it with a genuine feel for people. The term “human capital” would have been absurd.

Tom, the manager, was liked by everyone. He was known to be fair and approachable, and although he was not a softy or a pushover, you could ask him for a special schedule if you needed one. The clients who hired the call center also loved what we did. We had great rankings, and could get anyone to buy anything on the phone. Of course, the company only signed up with companies it genuinely developed a relationship with. And that is the secret of managing and developing any business at all: develop a real relationship by calling your clients and dealing honestly with them.

It was great while it lasted.

Like most things in that time of change, it didn’t last. The call center was bought out in 1994 by a bigger company, and went the way many companies have gone in the U.S. and elsewhere: the management became big and impersonal, giving lip service to the values of human decency and individuality that the smaller company really lived by. And that’s what companies do these days: they have a people-centered company mission statement that sounds good, and then they often do just the opposite in practice. And people know it.

Bigger is not better. Bigger cars take more gas and make the earth poor once more; bigger bombs destroy our future, bigger debates waste our time, bigger egos prevent us from communicating with one another. And if you are not big enough to lose, you are too small to win.

Covering our fears and our lies with impressive company names and more lies will not help the peoples of this world. Using the clever term “human capital” will not make us feel human. Admitting we are all human and then treating us as such, and forging on with a positive attitude, was always the best policy: as George Bernard Shaw put it, “If you can’t get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you’d best teach it to dance.”

What’s the best way to run a call center? How can you run a call center so you get lots of work and can still face yourself in the mirror?

If you’ve been reading this page, I think you have the answer.